Installing elevators in old residential areas requires the consent of at least two-thirds of the building or unit, which often leads to dissatisfaction and obstruction on the first floor.
1. Installing an elevator in an old building without one would only have negative effects on the first floor, affecting lighting, visibility, traffic, privacy, and even on the second floor (if the elevator reaches half a floor, the second floor should not choose to take the elevator to the upper half and then walk half a floor). If you insist that it has no impact on the lower class residents, the discussion on this topic can also be stopped.
2. The land occupied by the installation of elevators. As everyone said, this is a public area. May I ask whose public area it belongs to? It doesn't belong to the first floor or the upper floor, it belongs to the entire community. Speaking of 2/3, the worst thing is that 2/3 of the residents in the entire community believe that this land can be used to install elevators. Why did 2/3 of this unit make the decision on their behalf?
3. Many people have mentioned the need to solve the issue of compensation, and I think this is also the only way. Civil issues can be resolved through civil means. If we agree, we can pretend, but if we can't, we can't pretend. It's a simple principle, but it's not easy to do.
4. The issue of housing prices. Installing an elevator, the depreciation of the lower floors and the appreciation of the higher floors is obvious, and it must be a depreciation - because the disadvantages of the first and second floors have become worse, but the advantages have disappeared; The advantages of high floors are still advantages, but the disadvantages are gone. The appreciation of high-rise buildings is based on the impact on the residents on the first floor. This is not an excuse for not being envious. If there were no impact on the first floor, such as installing corridors and elevators, would there be so many people opposing it?
5. The standardization issue of residential spacing.
After installing elevators, the spacing will only shrink further, and the sunlight on the ground floor of the northern residential area will be worse. Some people think that the elevator is so small, that it protrudes locally, does it need to recalculate the spacing?
(1) The building spacing is the minimum vertical distance between the exterior walls of adjacent buildings. When there is a protrusion on the exterior wall (except for locally protruding structural columns), it is calculated based on the outer edge of the convex surface.
(2) Local overhangs on the north side of the building that block sunlight (such as balconies, stair platforms, corridors, etc.) and protruding parts with a total length exceeding half of the corresponding building side length should be calculated from the vertical projection line of the overhanging (protruding) part. Less than half of it may not be counted, but if the continuous length of the protruding part exceeds 8 meters, it shall be calculated based on the vertical projection line of the protruding part.
The size of the elevators installed now is generally the same width as the stairwell, about 2.4 meters, protruding 4 meters northward from the stairwell, so the continuous length of the protruding part reaches 4+2.4+4=10.4 meters.
5. The issue of structural renovation. The installation of elevators for two households on one floor is connected to the half level platform of the stairs. It is inevitable for everyone to continue walking up or down the stairs and install ring beams when entering the house. Now, the Elevator Addition Office has held an expert discussion meeting, and they believe that the renovation of the ring beam part is not a problem. So, we are not experts on this, and we do not know right or wrong, but we can only worry.
Firstly, I proposed a plan that is both reasonable and capable of installing an elevator on the floor.
The joint venture will add one floor above the third floor to the first floor residents, and the original first floor will be shared equally by everyone. The second floor will not be responsible for elevator installation fees, and there is no need to pay elevator maintenance fees for use, and the elevator can be used normally.
So the problem is simple. Regarding the problem itself, if you really want to implement the installation of elevators in old buildings, please let go of the administrative (approval stamping and first floor residential renovation) and provide financial support.
If we blindly pursue policy oriented achievements (through strict installation), not only will it not increase the harmony between this building and the community, but it is also very likely to cause disharmony in the community and floors.
The old community is already a balanced ecosystem, with good lighting, ventilation, affordability, and fear of death on the upper floors, poor privacy on the lower floors due to humidity, convenient access, high prices on the middle and lower floors, and excellent performance... When buying a house, everyone is in line with the situation.
Don't tell me that it's difficult for elderly people to enter and exit your high-rise buildings. No problem, installing an elevator is fine. Can we change houses? Didn't you say you installed the elevator just for the convenience of entry and exit?
So if I exchange with you on the first floor, there's no need to pay for the elevator and there's still a lot of compensation. If anyone is willing to exchange, I'll pay an extra 20000 yuan.
This is a clear conflict of interest issue, as the real estate industry is destined to be irreconcilable from the beginning. In the past, disputes could not be ruled out in the context of collective distribution of unit houses. Now, with individual property rights, are you willing to give a piece of the pie to those who intend to plan your property?
No matter how many reasons you have to install an elevator, as long as you consider changing the angle, if you are willing to change houses with you on the first floor and don't have to climb stairs and lose money, would you still be willing to install an elevator for your original first floor neighbor? You're just sacrificing a little bit of quietness, a little bit of privacy, a little bit of housing prices, and a little bit of relative floor advantage.
This answer is dedicated to those who morally blackmail low-level residents.
Of course, the original intention of hoping to facilitate the elderly is correct, but the premise is that in cases involving interest exchange, the consent of the interest transferor and corresponding compensation are required to complete the transaction.